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maimai83
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http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSPEK3763220080724?feedType =RSS&feedName=worldNews
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China says breaks up international terrorist cell
Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:23am EDT
BEIJING (Reuters) - Shanghai police have broken up an international terrorist group that had planned to attack an Olympic football preliminary match in the city, state news agency Xinhua said on Thursday.
"We have staged raids and cracked a group of terrorists," Xinhua quoted Cheng Jiulong, Shanghai Public Security Bureau deputy director and head of the Shanghai security office for the Olympics, as saying.
However, Cheng did not say when the terrorists were first discovered, how many suspects were detained or where they came from, said Xinhua.
"We have obtained information that international terrorist organizations would likely launch an attack against an Olympic venue in the city during the Games," Cheng said.
The report comes after state media said earlier in the day that Chinese paramilitary police swore to prevent terrorist attacks or "political incidents" from disrupting the Beijing Olympics in a show of force at the Games' main stadium.
"International terrorist forces are itching to strike with terror attacks against the Beijing Games, and hostile domestic forces' disruption and sabotage activities against the Games are steadily unfolding," the People's Armed Police News reported.
Chinese officials have said their main Games security worries focused on separatist militants seeking an independent Uighur homeland in the country's far west Xinjiang region and campaigners for an independent t¡bet.
Human rights critics say China has grossly exaggerated the security threats from Uighurs and t¡betans to justify harsh control in those regions.
Shanghai police have been put on a "crisis" footing as part of a campaign to ensure public safety during Olympic football matches in the city next month, said Xinhua.
Shanghai will host 12 Olympic football matches during the Games and the stadium has been closed for security checks since July 20, with armed police conducting round-the-clock patrols, said the news agency.
Firefighters, engineers and medical staff would be deployed to the stadium to prevent bomb blasts and nuclear and biochemical attacks, it said.
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This is getting pretty old, I really wish they would just "get it" that no one is going to buy it.
Unnamed, unidentified international terrorist group is apprehended saving the Olympics. How many? From where? Details? None of this is relevant to the story. But Xinjiang is full of evil evil terrorists, and so is t¡bet now too.
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oh_the_darkness
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July 24, 2008 - 11:46 PM |
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I'm just glad that there are less of those stinking Xinjiang people around right now.
Thieving little kitties. |
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Andreas
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July 24, 2008 - 11:55 PM |
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You seem to have fallen for the regime propaganda, and the general attitude of the Shanghainese wankstains.
The only place where you find thieves here is in the junta and their local henchmen. |
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oh_the_darkness
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July 25, 2008 - 12:11 AM |
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You sure? I've seen more than a few Xinjiang young guys casing around areas like xjh, certain areas in Pudong, looking to do a grab and run with peoples bags etc.
I saw a Xinjiang guy literally taking stuff from a some guy's backpack while it was on his back.
These people come to Shanghai to rob and steal or open a kebab shop. |
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mat
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July 25, 2008 - 12:33 AM |
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Wo da XinJiang Ren.
Say that to the taxi drivers who ask where you are from. You get the friggin fastest route possible to where you are going, let me tell you that.!! |
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maimai83
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July 25, 2008 - 12:45 AM |
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Say that to the taxi drivers who ask where you are from. |
So... all of them?
I was tempted once to make a nametag with:
Nationality
Monthly Income
Job
How long I've been in China
It would have stopped a lot of really annoying conversations from ever happening. |
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hc
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July 25, 2008 - 02:57 AM |
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Well. When the US "cracks a bunch of terrorists", people seem to believe it, even though there are dozens of thousands of innocent people that are labeled "terrorists" so to justify slaughtering them.
The thing is: the PR problem of China makes it easier for people to hate China than to hate "Muslim terrorists".
From a PR point of view it is extremely serious.
Obviously the Tbet thing is a different story: it's a much more manipulated case and a complete pile of misinformation that is spread on purpose.
But I guess you guess what I mean.
The Big O will be PR shot they need, but you can write it down that even if there are lines to a Coke machine in a crowded stadium the media will look at it from the worst possible light possible ("mobs congested crucial relief equipment in the stadiums and ruined the olympic games to hundreds of visitors. The Johnsons, who came all the way from Alabama to spend their life savings in the Beijing Olympics promise to never come back after the debacle and almost being seriously injured by the lack of organization of the games". You will notice that if an article like this is written, and it will be, there will be the token redneck saying "we shouln't have given them the games".
Wait and see.
Goebbels. It's Goebbels all over again. |
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oh_the_darkness
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July 25, 2008 - 07:51 AM |
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^ Absolutely.
So even if they do actually do crack a terrorist plot by ANYONE it will be seen as China cracking heads of minority groups etc etc.
Can't wait to see what the London Olympics will be like. They could have football hooligans beating up people in Heathrow Airport as they arrive and the British press will write 'British lads give Johnny Foreigner a hearty welcome'. |
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maimai83
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July 25, 2008 - 08:49 AM |
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^ Well, it's nice to see that I'm not alone on this way of thinking. They are directing their PR towards bullshit, when they should be addressing all those fun issues that us horrible complaining foreigners who should love China or leave it have stated over and over and over again. In an effort to turn one of the safest places there is into a police state, they have managed to piss off the business people who are there by choice and work hard on the PRC's behalf to change negative opinion. They have managed to piss off reporters who had been promised full access to the country. Way to bias your international spokespeople against you before it even begins.
The price drops on hotel rates is going to be a double-edged sword too. All the foreigners who have paid up in full in advance are going to be pissy about how the rates have now dropped for everyone who didn't.
The beautifully screwed up thing is that if they had done this in a smarter way (without looking like jack-booted thugs), they could have achieved the same results without the bad PR. And not to compare them to Nazis, but even the Nazis were smart enough to treat the Jews incredibly well for the Olympics even though it was all a cover. Would have been much cheaper to appease the pissed off groups and pander to them for a year or two than it's costing them now in both money and PR. Now all it takes is just ONE demonstrator from Xinjiang in the right place at the right time to catch the camera's glance and all the very real problems come to light of the foreign media, and with the Olympics as a cover, that person becomes untouchable.
Way to go China. When will they figure out that we bitch because we care about the place? I really do wish someone would realize that with the number of expats who have gone through the trouble of making a home in China, that they should at least be listened to. I don't know too many people who both hate a place and stay there by choice. |
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hc
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July 25, 2008 - 10:16 AM |
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^Nope.
Your assumption is that before any of these latest fugg ups happened that everyone would give China a fair chance presswise. And having reasons it or not, the fate of what China will be as a nation has been decided since Chiang the cnt ran away and "the communists" arrived. After that happened it was just a matter to reinforce here and there, adjust where necessary not to make it too obvious that an image was being perpetuated, and so forth. Goebbels has been having a long laugh, FROM BOTH SIDES, and for a long time.
Now, I think BJ doesn't give a fugg about what johny foreigner will think about beijing.
The priority appears to me to get internal legitimacy first and foremost, and everything else comes a distand second.
AS for "pissing off expats". Well, look at the volume of people working with F visas for instance and you would have to admit it was a big zoo.
I am pretty sure in your country things are more strict visa wise, am I right?
You see, a good example of how China is just playing it like everybody else but the media is reporting it from the worse possible side.
I never saw an article about the drunken english teacher living on a f visa, dodging taxes, behaving like a retard and doing illegal shiat here.
Or about the french dj that also takes pictures (obviously on a f or l visa) and thinks that he "puts money in the economy because he consumes jiaozi on the stree".
Joke.
Now the image of china will be of this "giant" that will take over the world.
Words of a customer friend of mine: "dude, they can't organize a meeting and have people show up on time, how do you expect them to dominate anything".
"Way to go China. When will they figure out that we bitch because we care about the place?"
Sorry man, but you lost the plot completely. That's the biggest lie I ever saw on this site. ]
We are all selfish like a flea, we do not give a crap. If you did you would first of all dynamite any foreign press building you know, for being such a bunch of retards.
"Listened to"?
You are kidding right?
Can you give me ONE example where people have been listened to anywhere in the world without involving some form of violence of arm twisting?
We have much bigger problems than xinjiang. Look at Palestine. Look at Africa. Look at the disaster India will be in 10 years. China from the developing countries is ahead of the curve on its development, and that comes with a cost of course (and look at how the media put a bad spin on China profiting from Africa, while the west did much worse for years years years and years).
The PR battle has been decided ages ago. To think that this is a fair, objective take on China is ubber naive imho. |
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oh_the_darkness
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July 25, 2008 - 10:23 AM |
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I wish I could find the article but I can't. There was a news piece in an American site about some guy that had been 'kicked out' of China because he 'couldn't get a visa'. He was working on an F visa. But, according to foreign media, China is the bad guy for putting a stop to this practice. In a way, no wonder China kind of has this attitude of 'fck you' to the rest of the world, because whatever it does will be wrong. |
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maimai83
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July 25, 2008 - 12:42 PM |
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Well of course, "China is always wrong", that's a given. No matter what they choose to do, they are wrong for choosing it due to the spin it is given in the western rags. Either it was not enough or completely wrong. Has been for 200 years.
The problem with this is that there is now a conflict. The big O is a PR event, it's their big coming out party. Which means the "we don't give a crap what you think" mentality just does not jive.
As far as the "I am pretty sure in your country things are more strict visa wise, am I right?". Need I remind you of the Mexicans? It's a bitch to do it legally, but millions seem to have little problem just hopping over the fence.
Am I saying that they should have just let the visa thing stay the way it was? Hell no, it needed to be cleaned up. But they would have been smart to phase it and start about a year ago with clearly written notices of changes happening as a warning to all that they need to get their visa situations straightened out along with a definite deadline when **** would start hitting the fan.
That being said, I actually care a shitload about China myself and don't see anything wrong with them doing whatever they want to do. Just saying that they need to figure out how to do it smarter while achieving the same results. |
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Cambronne
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July 25, 2008 - 07:28 PM |
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Muslims in Aghanistan (soviet era): good people
Muslims in Bornia: good people
Muslims in Chechenya: good people
Muslims in Afghanistan (post 9/11): terrorists
Muslims in China: good people
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